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# Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-05-27 |
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## Links |
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* **Public YouTube feed**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPfLxulsbQ |
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* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/41 |
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* **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KlxiQGMsJFNJu3meok9e9XFsM39k_PMnQmY_9d_cy0 |
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## Agenda |
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Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests prior to meeting. |
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### nodejs/node |
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* \[Converge\] timers: Avoid linear scan in `_unrefActive`. [#23](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/23) |
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* \[Converge\] child_process argument type checking [#22](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/22) |
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* \[Converge\] SSLv2/3 disable/enable related commits [#20](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/20) |
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* doc: Add new working groups [#15](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/15) |
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### nodejs/io.js |
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* Buffer implemented using Uint8Array [#1810](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1810) |
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* \[Discussion\] FFI - Giving Buffer more low-level C functionality [#1750](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/pull/1750) |
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* Chrome 43 released; time for V8 4.3! [#1735](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1735) |
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* Deprecation Policy [#1704](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1704) |
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* TSC needs to elect a board representative. [#1697](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1697) |
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* V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1451) |
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### joyent/node |
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## Present |
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* Alexis Campailla (TSC) |
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* Ben Noordhuis (TSC) |
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* Bert Belder (TSC) |
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* Brian White |
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* Chris Dickinson (TSC) |
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* Colin Ihrig (TSC) |
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* James M Snell (TSC) |
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* Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) |
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* Mikeal Rogers |
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* Michael Dawson (TSC) |
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* Mike Dolan (TSC) |
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* Rod Vagg (TSC) |
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* Shigeki Ohtsu |
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* Trevor Norris (TSC) |
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## Quick stand-up |
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* Rod: Working on combining the build, 3.0 |
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* James: Working on repo convergence, triaging joyent/node issues, LTS policy drafting |
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* Shigeki: Investigating a slow tls test and SSL mitigations for a log jam attack. |
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* Jeremiah: Lots of little things |
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* Colin: Libuv work for os.homedir() |
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* Chris: Removing sys, checking breakage; fixing bug I introduced in persistent history |
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* Bert: Looking at issues |
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* Alexis: Working on combining the build, fixing windows issues |
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* Trevor: Working on the new Buffer impl using Uint8Array |
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* Michael: Traging joyent/node, spun up the benchmarking WG, looking into adding powerpc build machines |
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* Brian: Almost done the pure JS dns resolver, all tests are passing |
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* Ben: |
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- Make require faster |
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- Date.now() perf improvements |
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## Review of last meeting |
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* _Skipping_ |
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## Minutes |
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### \[Converge\] timers: Avoid linear scan in `_unrefActive`. [#23](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/23) |
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* James: conflicting approaches in both repos |
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* Ben: both are terrible under different workloads - do away with the code and start again |
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* Jeremiah: might have a go at it, working off an existing heap impl by Ben (ACTION) |
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* Bert: some problems with http - discussion happened about the implementation |
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* Chris: would be good to have Julien’s input since he was active on the joyent/node impl |
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### \[Converge\] child_process argument type checking [#22](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/22) |
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* James: arg checking merged in 0.10 after the fork |
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* Discussion about why this wasn’t merged to io.js |
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* Defer back to GitHub discussion after no reason for not merging could be found on the call |
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### \[Converge\] SSLv2/3 disable/enable related commits [#20](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/20) |
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* James: SSLv2/3 removed in io.js, merging these commits would involve reverting |
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* Jeremiah proposed 0.12 being the LTS for SSLv2/3 support |
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* Rod: are we happy killing this off? |
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* Michael: we don’t know how extensively it’s being used? |
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* James: pending research into that question we’ll leave this alone, come back if there’s a compelling reason to revert |
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### doc: Add new working groups [#15](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/15) |
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* Michael: Benchmarking and Post Mortem Debugging working groups are ready and have started, i18n group needs a bit more work to get off the ground |
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* Group didn’t see any reason not to go forward with these groups, they have repos and can be in an “incubating” state for now |
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### Buffer implemented using Uint8Array [#1810](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1810) |
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* Trevor: Buffer using Uint8Array is now working, all applicable tests pass, currently behind a flag: |
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- Are we going with v8 4.3 or 4.4? |
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- If we go v8 4.3, do we want to release behind a flag? |
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- we still want an upper kMaxlength Buffer size limit? |
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* Ben: Buffer size limit should be safe to remove |
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* Rod: 4.3 and 4.4 both contain major breakage for native addons |
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* Discussed if we would like to delay 3.0 until v8 4.4 |
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* Rod: no appetite here for delaying a 3.0 with 4.3, take discussion on that back to GitHub |
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* Ben: suggested we release new Buffer impl with a flag to revert to old impl, Jeremiah seconded |
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* Discussed how hard it would be to land and review |
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* Fedor: how does it work with 32bit numbers? |
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* Trevor: It acts the same as before |
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### \[Discussion\] FFI - Giving Buffer more low-level C functionality [#1750](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/pull/1750) |
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* Trevor: concerns about being able to write to buffers and execute arbitrary code |
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* Rod: concerned about changing the nature of what Node _is_ and the safety it exposes |
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* Ben suggested that we move this new work to an ffi module rather than hanging it off Buffer |
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- Group agreed to take this suggestion back to the issue for discussion |
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### Chrome 43 released; time for V8 4.3! [#1735](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1735) |
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* Concerns about deps forcing semver-major, the C++ API changes are big enough to warrant this though |
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### Deprecation Policy [#1704](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1704) |
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* Discussion dividing into two camps - conservative camp and those who want to test the size of the impact on the ecosystem |
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* Suggestion (Michael?) that we use LTS releases to determine when things get properly removed |
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* Discussed why we want a deprecation policy |
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### TSC needs to elect a board representative. [#1697](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1697) |
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* Deferred till next meeting - need to nominate and vote someone in to this role and should discuss how we want to structure the role in terms of rotation |
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### V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1451) |
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* Nothing to discuss, rolled up in to Buffer discussion earlier |
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## Next meeting |
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* June 3rd, 8PM UTC |
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