# Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-09-16 ## Links * **Audio Recording**: https://soundcloud.com/node-foundation/tsc-meeting-2015-09-16 * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2898 * **Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RCR2pGOc2d80NNusaX5DZaktWvHEsDUqfEZP-tvexBk * _Previous Minutes Google Doc: _ ## Present * Rod Vagg (TSC) * Brian White (TSC) * Steven R Loomis * Fedor Indutny (TSC) * Bert Belder (TSC) * Colin Ihrig (TSC) * Trevor Norris (TSC) * Shigeki Ohtsu (TSC) * Chris Dickinson (TSC) * Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) * Ben Noordhuis (TSC) * Alexis Campailla (TSC) * Domenic Denicola * Michael Dawson ## Agenda Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests in the nodejs org prior to meeting. ### nodejs/node-v0.x-archive * Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) * Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) ### nodejs/node * Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) * util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) ## Minutes Due to IBM’s acquisition of StrongLoop, IBM is over the TSC 25% company limit rule. Michael Dawson and Steven Loomis have stepped down from TSC, but they are here as observers. ### Standup * Rod Vagg: Released 4.0.0, also 3.3.1 maintenance release. Getting the build system ready for building/publishing 0.10 and 0.12 binaries. * Brian White: not much, triaging issues and PRs, some work on dns parser * Steven R Loomis: tsc resignation for IBM/SL merge, some issue triage, working on a more robust download for ICU (ICU server was overloaded, fixed to ICU again redirects to sourceforge, discussed longer term discussions) * Fedor Indutny: v8’s ArrayBuffer fixes, reviewing PRs, fixing issues * Bert Belder: very few reviews/issue comments. Some libuv work on rwlocks. * Colin Ihrig: not much, some issue tracker work * Trevor Norris: Trying to make things (including Buffers) faster, some issue/PR review * Shigeki Ohtsu: Just a few reviews of issues. * Chris Dickinson: Working on shoving static npm analysis data into a database, slowly * Jeremiah Senkpiel: NodeConf.eu, issues and PRs, 4.1.0 release * Ben Noordhuis: only PR review and responding to bug reports, a patch or two upstreamed to v8 * Alexis Campailla: ARM cross-compile for CI. Misc fixes for VS 2015 / Win10 * Domenic Denicola: some issue and PR review, talking with v8 team * Michael Dawson: landed the build updated for AIX, also updating the tests for AIX where necessary. Looking into PPC failures. Working on getting us hooked into v8 security notifications. ### Previous meeting’s agenda * Jenkins merge jobs always overwrites PR-URL and Reviewed-By [#179](https://github.com/nodejs/build/issues/179) * doc: update COLLABORATOR_GUIDE [#2638](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2638) * deps: update v8 to 4.5.103.30 [#2632](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2632) * Node.js v4 Release Timeline [#2522](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2522) * Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) ### Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) ### Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) Jeremiah: Are these things that we think we can do? Should we go ahead with that? Is it a good idea to deprecate these things? Ben: How are we going to deprecate? Literal `util.deprecate`? Jeremiah: Probably? Trevor: They’re already floating a patch Rod: I’m fine with deprecating smalloc Trevor: Is there a deprecation cycle between LTS? I’m not sure how this would work? (i.e., if we deprecate now, LTS -> LTS upgraders will not see a deprecation warning.) Rod: Maybe punt to LTS WG? It could be quite a lot — it could be that we decide between stable versions to remove things (or we’re forced to), do we backport the deprecation to LTS? Jeremiah: I think it should be only for things we’re _forced_ to remove Action: Punt to LTS WG ### Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) Trevor: Have an 80% understanding of the work needed: WebSocket support in core (though not necessarily exposed publicly), API injection points. Are we ok with including web sockets support one way or another? Rod, Domenic, others: +1 ### util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) Discussion of Buffer “raw{s,}” encoding as well — undocumented, deprecated, inconsistently implemented in core. Action: Remove util.p (Jeremiah to respond.) Bert: Perhaps we should bulk remove? Rod: util.p is relatively trivial, has a deprecation warning, etc. Jeremiah: Brought this up because these things have been deprecated forever. util.exec has been deprecated for a while, as well. Trevor: raw/raws are deprecated in name only, no warnings, but C++ layer does not know about them (falls back to utf8) — maybe should be removed as a bugfix, because it does not work consistently. Action: Chris to list “least used stuff” (with apologies for how longs its taken!) ### Next Meeting September 23