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# io.js TC Meeting 2014-12-17 |
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## Links |
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* **Google Hangouts Video**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s-VJLQEWXg |
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* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/163 |
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* **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PoqGfxpfTFKv5GcKmhMM2siZpPjT9Ba-ooBi-ZbYNi0 |
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## Agenda |
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Extracted from https://github.com/iojs/io.js/labels/tc-agenda prior to meeting. |
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* Bundle tick processor with iojs #158 https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/158 |
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* Release Cycle Proposal #168 https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/168 |
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* Module search security #176 https://github.com/iojs/io.js/pull/176 |
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* Dealing with feature requests |
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## Review of last meeting |
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* Move readable-stream to io.js and flip authoritative flow of code, docs and issues |
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* Soft deprecation of domains, accept PR #15 as last feature addition |
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* Caine, discussion continued on GitHub |
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* Project name is “io.js”, binary name is “iojs” |
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* Extending options from prototype, discussion continued on GitHub |
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* Promises statement for issue #11 |
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* Working with nvm, etc. |
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## Minutes |
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### Present |
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* Bert (TC) |
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* Chris (TC) |
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* Trevor (TC) |
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* Isaac (TC) |
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* Rod (build, facilitator) |
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### Bundle tick processor with iojs #158 |
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https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/158 |
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* Bert: important because it’s tied to the version of V8, not practical to put it in npm because one is needed for each version |
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* Isaac: this is minimal and shouldn’t set a standard for just adding more stuff to core (i.e. keep core minimal), so +1 |
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+1 from Isaac, +1 from Bert, **no disagreement amongst group, consensus has been reached on bundling a tick processor with releases.** |
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### Release Cycle Proposal #168 |
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https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/168 |
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* Bert & Isaac discussed how this feeds into the ability to have frequent releases. Discussed semver plays into this. |
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* Rod: consensus seems to be around having stability, predictability, lead-time but more frequent releases. |
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* **Bert: Move discussion to #168. Still premature to discuss here.** |
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### Module search security #176 |
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https://github.com/iojs/io.js/pull/176 |
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* Limiting node_modules search path to $HOME as a top-level |
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* Isaac ~ -1 on this because EACCES already happens when you don’t have permission |
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* Isaac and Bert bikeshedded Windows C:\ writability and security on Windows. i.e. if someone can install code on a shared system above where a node application is running (e.g. C:\) then you could have untrusted code run by your application. |
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* Isaac: this PR is only addressing projects running in the home directory. |
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* Rod: module system is locked-down, TC needs to come to consensus that this is a _security_ issue and therefore warrants breaking it. |
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* Chris: `useradd node_modules` is a situation this could be a problem |
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* Isaac: not convinced this is a security problem, even the `useradd` situation requires root access on a system. |
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* Bert: this is an academic issue, it may _feel_ wrong but that doesn’t mean it’s strictly a security issue. |
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* Isaac: proposed the issue be closed as not a security issue. |
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* **No consensus that this is a security issue. Move discussion back to GitHub, potentially close issue, potentially bringing discussion back here. Encourage users to bring examples of real problems.** |
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### Dealing with feature requests |
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* Bert: asking for discussion about what to do with feature requests that come up but aren’t clearly something that are wanted. |
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* Bert: should we put a time limit on feature requests? Would like some guidelines for how to deal with these. |
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* Chris: have already been putting a 4-6 day window before closing them. If there is no code then it’s easier to close. If there is code then there could be more discussion. |
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* Isaac: this is a broader problem about the roadmap-setting process. |
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* Rod & Isaac: It’s up to someone on TC (or elsewhere) to start coming up with a roadmap, or at least start the discussion. |
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* **Agreed to start a GitHub discussion on roadmap and soliciting feedback from the community.** |
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* Rod: in an open model, it’s up to TC and those with commit access to take the initiative to just close things, given enough warning and chance for discussion and better arguments. |
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* Isaac: builtins (like Blog of FileReader) are TC39 / WhatWG groups out there that are doing this at the language & V8 level and we pull from there. It should be straightforward to close those issues. |
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* Bert: the roadmap shouldn’t be about locking down the dev process and tightly limiting scope of what’s added. |
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* **Agreed that feedback to all contributors (including TC), regarding closing issues: close issues that are instinctively bad and worth closing (close can be undone), anything potentially controversial can be flagged with a “will close” but give ~ 1 week for discussion, disagreement, lobbying etc.** |
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### Logos |
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* **Agreed that the release is the only _technical_ blocker from the TC’s perspective to a logo, so deferring discussion till then. Encourage interested parties from discussing this further on GitHub issue #37.** |
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### Next meeting |
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* Bert proposed 2014-12-30 as next meeting time |
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