doc: add CTC meeting minutes 2016-07-13

PR-URL: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7968 Reviewed-By: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
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+# Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2016-07-13
+
+## Links
+
+* **Audio Recording**: TBP
+* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7707
+* [Minutes Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fP9_ZNcPoFh2VWCgUFu9-rDiDcMP88vhCC_oX6Aj528)
+* _[Previous Minutes Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NWIKwYxDTApvc9Xbq5JTMorRPKIBuBKAA0zcjm8K_II)_
+
+## Present
+
+* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer)
+* Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39)
+* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
+* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
+* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
+* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
+* Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC)
+* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
+* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
+* Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
+* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
+* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC)
+* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
+* Stephen Loomis @srl295 (observer/ICU)
+* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer)
+* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
+* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)
+
+
+## Standup
+
+* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer)
+  * PRs & issues
+  * Some v4.x backports
+* Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39)
+  * Bad news from V8/Chakra. Can’t do property hoisting for Babel like CJS interop.
+  * Figuring out hooks for creating Modules in older Node versions
+* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
+  * Back-porting patches
+  * Moving stuff over from malloc() to new[] because of AIX
+  * ABI compatibility tool
+  * PRs & issues, of course - how could I forget?
+* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
+  * Reviewed issues and PRs
+  * Opened a few PRs
+* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
+  * Simple doc fix
+  * Working on cherry-picking into v6.x
+* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
+  * Fixed a TTY test that was silently failing for over a year
+  * misc PR & issue work
+* Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC)
+  * Various GYP-related tooling
+  * Code reviews, and fixing issues
+* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
+  * Diagnostics WG meeting
+  * debugging docs
+* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
+  * Added LinuxOne to v8 tests in CI
+  * Involvement on some AIX issues
+  * Working on ABI stable API, API WG meeting this week
+  * Re-scheduled post-mortem WG meeting for next week, LTS and diagnostic WG meetings
+  * misc reviews/lands and keeping up on issues
+* Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
+  * Worked on PR to check for accidental git conflict markers when linting in CI
+  * Backported some commits to v4.x
+  * Reviewed PRs and commented on issues
+* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
+  * Back from vacation, buried in email (sorry for late responses!)
+* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC)
+  * Investigating ABI incompatibilities. Preparing to drop VS 2013.
+  * Reviewed miscellaneous Windows issues.
+  * Resumed work on a PR for case normalization of the module cache on Windows
+* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
+  * LTS README rework
+* Steven Loomis @srl295 (observer/ICU)
+  * not much here, just trying to keep an eye on issues/PRs
+* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer)
+  * Working on v4.5.0 release https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688
+  * CITGM Enhancements (XML + Queue)
+  * Working with V8 team to improve workflow for managing floated commits https://github.com/nodejs/LTS/issues/111
+* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
+  * Working fix for one of the realpath bugs
+  * Backporting for v4.x
+  * Working on AsyncWrap implementation details
+* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)
+  * Trying to handle flaky test outbreak on FreeBSD in CI
+  * Various ESLint updates/improvements
+  * Banging my head against test-tick-processor flakiness which is easily the longest-standing flaky test.
+
+
+## Agenda
+
+Extracted from **ctc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting.
+
+### nodejs/node
+
+* build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7484)
+* Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175)
+* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102)
+* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688)
+
+### nodejs/node-eps
+
+* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28)
+
+
+## Previous Meeting
+
+### build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7484) (@jasnell)
+
+To be discussed again.
+
+### Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7175)
+
+@trevnorris was to complete changes, to be discussed again.
+
+### Replace section 5.1 with unambiguous JavaScript grammar. [#33](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/33)
+
+@jdalton’s proposal was merged.
+
+### AsyncWrap public API proposal [#18](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/18)
+
+API was accepted, implementation TBD before October.
+
+
+## Minutes
+
+### build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7484)
+
+@orangemocha: Decision to drop in v7 isn’t controversial. Will need to add tests for modules compiled with 2013 used with Node compiled with 2015.
+
+@orangemocha: Main question is switching in v6 before LTS. Is it a breaking change?
+
+Issue with node-sass module only comes up on Windows XP so can be discounted.
+
+No way to be sure if user modules compiled with 2013 might be incompatible with Node compiled with 2015. Have to run tests. Will CITGM provide sufficient testing?
+
+@myles: may not be enough native modules in CITGM to provide confidence.
+
+@Fishrock123: be sure to also test on pre-gyp’ed modules.
+
+@orangemocha: we may never have complete confidence that this isn’t a breaking change, but node-sass is the only issue ever reported.
+
+@orangemocha: Should we support modules built with 2013 in v7?
+@rvagg: need to include that in tests.
+
+**Next steps**: Run tests with modules compiled with 2013 to see if there are issues. Keep on agenda for next week and check on progress.
+
+### Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175)
+
+* ELOOP fix: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7548
+* Windows PR: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7559 (see also https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7192)
+
+ELOOP issue has been resolved. Windows problem being addressed in another PR. May have to use JS impl for Windows.
+
+@rvagg: If libuv can’t handle the realpath issue for Windows what should we do?
+
+@orangemocha: We’re using the JS impl for Windows.
+
+@trevnorris: we can use the libuv impl and defer to the JS impl if the libuv impl throws unexpectedly.
+
+@rvagg: should we just revert? How common is the case where this provides a speed-up?
+
+@trevnorris: keep both libuv and js impl for now.
+
+**Next steps**: All please review #7548 and #7559.
+
+### http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102)
+
+@mscdex: Prevent clash of header names with properties inherited from Object (e.g., __proto__). An object with a null prototype is already being used for the same purpose in `querystring.parse` since v6 release.
+
+@mscdex: Some have suggested cherry-picking some methods from Object such as `toString`:
+
+  * So that object can be inspected.
+  * To ensure backward compatibility.
+
+@mscdex: An eventual goal may be to store headers in an ES6 Map instead of on a plain object, but that will change the API considerably.
+
+@evanlucas: we should follow what we did with query string parameters.
+
+@rvagg: first need to review as some opposition to that.
+
+**Next steps**: All review PR.
+
+### proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [node-eps#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28)
+
+@trevnorris: Some discussion about supporting unregistered schemes (e.g. `chrome://`). We should support them, Chrome supports them.
+
+@trevnorris: `url.parse` can handle incomplete URLs (e.g. no scheme).
+
+@rvagg: Most important question is should `URL` be a global? There would be a `url` module and a different `URL` global.
+
+@fishrock123: there would be a transition period and then functionality would be in `URL`
+
+@rvagg: new impl is quite different from existing `url` module. Would like to see a diff. Migration will be difficult.
+
+**Next steps**: Waiting for @jasnell to return. Review again next week.
+
+### v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688)
+
+@thealphanerd:
+
+* Would like to include libuv v1.9.1.
+* Would like very extensive testing prior to release to exclude breaking changes.
+
+How can we best test?
+
+@rvagg: Promote the RC on social media.
+
+@thealphanerd: npm could help test, Myles will reach out.
+
+@rvagg: Heroku? (Hunter Loftis) Travis CI? Probably not because it depends on nvm which doesn’t do RC’s yet.
+
+@thealphanerd: will talk with @ljharb about nvm support for RCs.
+
+**Next steps**: @thealphanerd will ping all to test RC.
+
+### ES Modules update
+
+@bmeck: named imports from CJS modules (e.g. `import {use, route} from "express"` or `import {readFile, readFileSync} from "fs"`) can’t work.
+
+Updates to come on the topic via: https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/issues/26
+
+## Q/A on public fora
+
+## Upcoming Meetings
+
+* CTC: 2016-07-20
+* TSC: 2016-07-14
+* Diagnostics: 2016-08-03
+* Post-Mortem: 2016-07-18
+* API: 2016-07-14
+* LTS: 2016-07-25
+* Build: 2016-07-19